It's only January 12, and I think I've already gotten the "When will EA decisions be released?" question about umpteen times here on the blog and elsewhere. And I absolutely understand your anxiety and frustration. I know the stress of waiting for a decision can be even worse than the stress of completing your applications--especially because the anxiety is usually accompanied by the very uncomfortable feelings of vulnerability and helplessness. It’s not fun at all. I totally get that.
And I know it's hard to understand why in the world it takes us so long to get you a decision. It seems pretty simple: yes or no, thumbs-up or thumbs-down. But the kind of holistic review that we promise to our applicants actually requires a tremendous amount of work. It takes a lot of effort and a lot of man-hours. We want to make sure we get it right, as best we can.
So what exactly takes so long? Well, first we have to assemble all the requisite parts of your application. We've made a lot of gains in efficiency over the past few years with this part of our work. We've transitioned to electronic submission of data wherever possible, so that computers can do a lot of the work of sorting, filing, and assembling application materials. But there's still plenty of manual work and data entry involved in this step, as evidenced by the rows of mail bins that fill our mail room. And, with tens of thousands of applications, there is a lot of data-checking and correction that is necessary.
Most time-consuming of all, of course, is the next step: the reading of your application. Each application is read, in its entirety, by at least two members of our admissions committee. Many applications are reviewed a third time, usually by a committee, and some are looked at four or even five times before a decision is finalized. We don’t filter applications by SAT score, or geographic area, or GPA. We just read them all, one by one, from cover to cover.
Once this preliminary review of all of our applications takes place, we look at our numbers and make some tough decisions about how many students we should admit to fill (but not over-fill) our target class of about 4,000 students. This involves a lot of statistical models, projections, and number-crunching. Thankfully, I have some very smart colleagues with far better math skills than me—and many years of experience under their belts. I leave all of this work to them while I go and write overly wordy blog entries like this one (even though I should be reading—I don’t even want to look at how many RD applications are waiting in my queue…)
We also do a lot of double- and triple-checking of decisions at this stage. We're human and we do make errors, so we have many safeguards in place to make sure that each decision released is the one we intended.
Before we can finalize decisions, we also have to review all the community standards cases from those students who reported disciplinary infractions. Most students only report minor issues, but due diligence is required in reviewing every single one so that we know we're doing everything we can to ensure a safe campus. We also review, with the help of a faculty committee, finalists for merit scholarships, Honors, and our other special opportunities.
And, of course, we have to make sure everything is ready for students to start enrolling. We’re busy planning all the admitted-student events we’ll be hosting this spring—invitations for those will be included with admitted students’ letters.
So that's just some of what we've been working on for the past couple months. You put a lot of work into your application, and it's only right that we put a lot of work into reviewing it. We want to be as fair, honest, and thorough as we can possibly be.
We're on schedule to release EA decisions, as promised, by the end of January. You'll receive a paper letter in the mail, and you'll be able to view your decision on MyUNC. I will not be able to tell you a specific date or time that decisions will be released on MyUNC. We've found in the past that giving out a specific time will only increase the frenzy, and if 13,000 students all sit on MyUNC, constantly clicking "refresh," the whole system will crash. The result is only more misery, more anxiety, and more anger. My best advice to you is to concentrate on your schoolwork, your life, and your family and friends. Remind yourself that anxiety is a waste of energy—and it will only make the next couple weeks feel that much longer.
Please let me know what questions you have. I reformatted the comments so they are now threaded—we can now respond directly to each comment. I would still love it if you'd include your name or at least a screen name, though. I like knowing who I am talking to!
UPDATE 1/23: I am closing the comments on this post as they have gotten unwieldy. I have posted some FAQs for admitted, deferred, and denied students. Please see those posts for more info and add your questions there. Thanks.
Thanks, Julie. I'll be anxiously awaiting my decision!
ReplyDeleteThank you for this! I can only imagine how difficult it is to read all these applications. Love your Keep Calm and Carry On post - I'm continuing to think about that during this whole college admissions process. I do have a question, though. Will there be an email sent that decisions have been posted, or should we just check our portal frequently?
ReplyDeleteThanks,
Melissa
Hi Melissa! No, we won't send an email prior to releasing decisions on MyUNC. Word tends to spread pretty quickly, though, once we've posted them, so you will likely hear about it. Thanks! Keep calm and carry on! :)
DeleteThank you so much for these blogs! It is really incredible how much work goes into this process and it is nice to hear what is actually happening behind the curtain. From all of us who are waiting for our decisions, I would really like to thank you for your hard work and I can't wait to find out our decisions!
ReplyDeleteThanks,
Alix
Thanks for putting so much work into reading our applications and also managing to squeeze in time to post this entry and others. I am looking forward to hearing my decision and I thank you, along with the Admissions office, for all your hard work! Also, my anxiety went down a lot after reading this!
ReplyDeleteThanks,
Ebony
Thank you for all the hard work! Although it is difficult to wait, it makes me feel better that so much time is being put into each application. I am dying waiting for this though! I literally have a dream every night about getting my decision. My question is: do we receive an email telling us that the decisions are posted on myUNC? Or will there just be a blog entry about it? And do you time it so that the snail mail decision will come before it is posted online?
ReplyDeleteThank you so much and can't wait to hear!
Hi Amanda, No, we don't send an email. We try to time the paper letters to arrive around the same time as the online decisions, though it depends on the mail. Thanks!
DeleteWhy would you mail paper letters and wait for them to arrive before posting on the MY UNC account? I don't understand. I am not trying to be critical but we all know that online is much faster than the mail and much more reliable.
DeleteI'd actually rather have it come in the mail before being posted. I think its more exciting and traditional to have it come in the mail and physically open it rather than find out online.
DeleteThank you so much for these blog updates!
ReplyDeleteI was wondering what the decision options are for early decision. Is being deferred an option or is it just either accepted or rejected?
Hi there, EA applicants may get an admit, deny, or defer decision. If you are deferred your letter will explain more about what this means. We'll also post some frequently-asked questions here on the blog. Thanks!
DeleteHey Julie,
ReplyDeleteAs a current student, I was wondering if there are any jobs that I could get in the admissions office besides as an ambassador. Or are those positions only full time professionals?
Hi! The only paid positions for current students we have here in the office are work-study positions. If you're eligible for work-study, you can apply for those positions at the beginning of the fall semester. The ambassador program is a great way to get involved with helping recruit students to Carolina, though that's generally on a volunteer basis. We select new ambassadors each fall, so I'd encourage you to apply if you're interested. Thanks for the question!
DeleteJulie- Thank you for being so open about the process and for taking the time to blog! As a hopeful member of the class of 2016, I appreciate the time and energy spent by your office more than words can say. The wait is driving me CRAZY but I know/hope that it will be worth it in the end! Thanks again for sending umpteen hours on your applicants!
ReplyDeleteHi Julie and anyone else,
ReplyDeleteI'm a first generation college student so I'm very nervous because I feel like compared to other more "college smart" students I'm nervous that I may fall short of expectations. On one hand, I feel that I'm reasonably competitive. I've taken 5 AP courses, I'm in-state, I'm in the top 2% of my class of about 500 students, I'm the captain of three varsity sports and highly ranked state wide in two of those sports, was section leader in the school band at the beginning of my high school career, I'm a student dean, a member of key club since freshman year,scored a 1300 on the reading and math portion of the SAT and I volunteer some of the time I have left over to my school and the community. Both my school and legal record are squeaky clean. That being said I'm nervous that because of all the time I've devoted to sports, I haven't really joined a lot of clubs and I heard that hurts your chances. My writing score on the SAT is low, and because my county has recently switched from a seven period day system to a four period day and a lot of our teachers were let go due to budget cuts this year, I didn't get to sign up for all the AP courses I wanted this year.
I'm also scared because of my essay. Not everyone in my family is college-bound and stays out of trouble...in fact I'm probably the exception of the family. I come from a pretty rough background and I spoke about that in depth in my essay. My intention was to let you guys get to know me, but now I'm over thinking everything and I'm scared that you guys will have seen the type of environment I grew up and not want to invest in me because of that. I know that it would be impossible for you to tell me my chances of being accepted. It's just that getting into Chapel Hill would mean everything to me. It's the only college I've toured that really feels like home and I've heard so many stories about how this school is so different than other schools, plus its the only top notch university around that I can afford. My parents and cousins and little brother have little to no clue about college. so when I try to talk to them about it and how nervous I am about UNC, they can't relate. I just want Julie and anyone else who can relate to read this and respond. Thanks in advance
I feel ya... I'm a first Gen also and have survived a schedule change this year also.
DeleteBest of luck to you! Hopefully we will both be classmates next year!
I understand you too. I will be a first generation student also. I feel that I am also at a disadvantage because I don't test well although my grade are good. I, too, have taken 5 AP classes. UNC has always been my dream. If denied, I will be devastated. Praying a decision comes very soon.
DeleteHi to all three of you! I'm so glad you applied to Carolina--and please know that we will give your application thoughtful consideration. We understand the challenges that first-generation college students face, and we're very sensitive to them. I think it's absolutely fine to discuss the challenges you've encountered and your family background in your essay. It's helpful for the admissions committee to understand where you've come from, so they can put your accomplishments into context. Also, about schedule difficulties--we're seeing many students affected by reduced curriculum choices due to budget cuts, so we're also sensitive to that.
DeleteIt takes guts to put yourself out there and apply--especially when you're the first in your family to do so. So good for you! And best of luck to all of you! Let me know if you have any more questions.
Yeah, it's very scary stuff man, I can't even talk to my guidance counselor about school because she hardly knows me. Our guidance counselors are assigned to us by alphabet, with the idea that each student will keep the same counselor for all four years...but the guidance counselors in my alphabet slot have quit every year, so I've literally had four counselors, which sucks. One of them (my current one)took one look at me and told me straight up there's no point in me applying to a school like UNC and to shoot for A&T or Central. How racist.
DeleteIs it bad if my essay wasn't exactly within the 250-500 word range? What if it was a little bit over the 500 limit? Will this essay automatically cause my application to be rejected? I'm getting nervous now!
ReplyDeleteHi there, No, we don't count words and it's not a big deal if you go over the word limit. No worries!
DeleteJulie,
ReplyDeleteAs I patiently wait UNC's decision on my son's application, I can't help but think about the pressure put upon your institution to select the best "fits" for UNC. Being a OOS (California) student, I realize the odds of being accepted decrease... but I feel good about the process, the time UNC has put into researching, and the commitment my son has dedicated to his academics. We look forward to hearing from you soon.
California Parent
Hi Julie,
ReplyDeleteI am a student overseas. Did you time overseas letters to arrive at the same time as the others?
Thank You!
Hi there, We try, but it can depend on where in the world you are. If you have any trouble receiving mailed information from us, just let us know by email. Thanks!
DeleteHi Julie! Thanks so much for this! I just discovered this blog and it is so neat! I've been to two events hosted by the admissions office and they both were wonderful! The office's ability to provide a great college visit is much superior to any other college I have visited. Thank you for the time you spend reading our applications and considering them all carefully. I'm sure its as stressful on you all as it is for us applicants! Can't wait to hear if I'm a tarheel!
ReplyDeleteHi Tar Heel hopefuls!
ReplyDeleteI'm one of the committee members Julie mentioned in this post. I often wish we could provide video footage of our committee discussions. We're pretty opinionated people and the discussions are great. We "fight" for you! Those essays you stressed over - we read them! And not just once... over and over and over. You've made us laugh (some of you are really funny!) and we've also teared up over some of the struggles you all have endured.
Remember one of the short answer questions? What advice would you give your parents? My very unscientific research states the most frequent response you all have given is, "RELAX!", "Don't worry, we'll figure it out" and "remember what it was like to be a teenager." Just thought the parents out there might like to know what students are thinking.
Working in undergraduate admissions is certainly a labor of love. I think we fancy ourselves educators and counselors. We are passionate about what we do and about Carolina. But, when it comes down to it, we want you all to find your best "fit", go to college, and be happy.
Anyway, I'm babbling. Probably just needed to do some writing since I've just been reading for so long. Thanks for applying and for waiting while we read all your lovely essays and letters of recommendation.
Oh... and for those of you who wrote heartfelt essays about your love for your mom, dad, grandparent, or sibling... I really hope you shared it with those people. I worry they'll never know the amazing things you say about them. :)
Take care,
Erin Breese
PS. Julie is awesome.
Dear Erin and Julie,
DeleteIt is obvious that you both (and I am sure the entire admissions department as well) truly love your job and are passionate for students. All of them whether admitted to UNC or not. I can tell this process is stressful for you folks too. Thanks for all you do!
My stress from the parent side is that my son loves the Tar Heels with all his heart and soul. He bleeds Carolina Blue. From the moment he was born, he was a Tar Heel. We named him after the greatest Tar Heel ever....Jordan! I prayer all day, every day that his dreams of becoming a Tar Heel are soon a reality.
Keep up the great work. Continue to answer these questions...it does help to read these comments. Also may I add a suggestion to everyone, go get a massage. LOL I did and it helped relieve some stress.
Hi Julie!
ReplyDeleteI just wanted to ask about whether I should be looking for a letter in the mail as overseas student ( I live in Dubai) or logging into myUNC when the time comes since mail takes months to reach Dubai after customs and other processes.
Thank you!
Hi Iman, We send the letters by regular U.S. Mail, so if you know mail to Dubai tends to be slow, it may take a little longer. If you have any trouble receiving paper mail from us, just send us an email. Thanks!
DeleteHello!
ReplyDeleteFirstly, I love Chapel Hill. It is my numero uno school and I am dying every day until the 31st. So...
I was wondering how you look at home schooled applicants and compare them to the rest of your applicant pool. Obviously, some of us have very unique academic records and very little opportunity to show leadership skills in a high school environment. Also, taking AP classes becomes very difficult. Many of us are completely self-taught. When we do well on the SAT 1 and 2 tests, do the admissions counselors recognize any added merit? It seems to me that to succeed as a home schooler shows great drive, initiative, and self-control. What do you think? The world of admissions is a little foreign to me (no high school counselor...). I also recognize that we home schoolers must be somewhat difficult to figure out at times. Hopefully I did enough SATs and non-home courses to allow ya'll to weigh me fairly. Thank you for any information you can provide and thank you and your colleagues for taking the time with our applications that you do.
-Anon E. Mousse
Hi there, You're right it can be a little tough to review a home-schooled applicant (or any applicant who has a more non-traditional school experience), but it sounds like you've given us some good information to help us. SAT subject test scores can be really helpful in understanding your mastery of subject material, and recommendations and grades from outside the home school are also helpful. We do our best to understand the rigor of your curriculum and also recognize the personal qualities that have helped you succeed in a more independent learning situation. Best of luck to you!
DeleteGreetings,
ReplyDeleteAs my daughter and I look ahead to all the possible outcomes of her admission as a freshman, I have suggested that if she doesn't get in this time, that she could always apply to transfer after a year or two at another school. Her concern is that if she was denied the first time, that will weigh against her in the future.
Do you have any words of wisdom to share?
Thanks again to you and all the staff for your tireless efforts
Hi, Every year we have many students successfully enroll as transfer students who were denied first-year admission. The fact that we are not able to admit a student as a first-year does not disadvantage them at all in the transfer admission review. The truth is we get so many really strong first-year applicants, and we just can't admit them all. We just don't have space! If a student is still interested in Carolina after a year or two at another school, we are more than happy to consider them for transfer admission. Hope this helps. Best of luck to you and your daughter!
DeleteWell said! :)
ReplyDeleteHi! I applied early action and I accidentally put that I wouldn't uphold the honor code. You guys had e-mailed me about it and I corrected it. I was just wondering if I would still receive my decision at the end of January or if because of the issues it might be delayed? Thanks!
ReplyDeleteRia Kuruvilla
lol really...
Deleteahahahahahahaha
Deleteif you make that mistake (if it was a mistake) I'm not sure if they should even consider you haha
DeleteRia, No worries. So long as you replied to our email and amended your statement, it should not have any effect on your decision or the timing of it.
DeleteAnd we actually had a lot of students who made this mistake. The way the question was presented on the Common App Supplement was quite confusing. Don't even give a thought to the above RUDE anonymous commenters! Best of luck to you!
Thanks! -Ria
DeleteI did the same thing. This makes me feel loads better. Thank you!
DeleteHow many International students are accepted?
ReplyDeleteHi there, Last year we admitted about 250 international students (those who do not hold US citizenship or permanent resident status). Thanks.
DeleteHow much weight do the two essays carry, particularly for merit scholarship and honors program consideration? I like my Common App essay a lot and believe it would have stood out, but my supplement essay was not my best (though I tried to emphasize personal growth throughout high school). I have very high stats (2300 SAT, 1 out of 350 in graduating class, 5.0 weighted GPA, 4.0 unweighted) as well as several leadership positions and extracurricular activities, but my supplement essay is worrying me.
ReplyDeleteThanks!
A Slightly Neurotic Overachiever
What kind of answer do you honestly believe you are going to receive?
Deleteand you really think you're not going to get in? People like you are why I honestly don't think I'm going to get in. You're going up against my 1940 SAT, 4.13 GPA, and being in the top 10-15 of a class of 45. I'm so jealous of you and your scores! Best of luck.
DeleteThough I don't want to sound cocky or tempt fate, I am reasonably comfortable that I'll be accepted for admission, though UNC is very competitive and I can't be certain. I'm more worried about the Honors Program and merit scholarships because I feel like I'm borderline for those.
Deletecool...
DeleteI'm just going to go ahead and point out the obvious here: everything is counted about the same, there is no one thing that is going to fail you, just as there is no one score that will get you in. They consider your entire application as a whole, and then they decide if you're right for this school. So while your stats are super impressive to myself and others who apply, they mean little and less on their own. I've known people with STELLAR stats and killer essays to be rejected by UNC, let alone the honors program. So please, do yourself and the rest of the applicants a favor, and stop showing off your scores. You'll find out about everything *when they release decisions.* That goes for acceptance *and* scholarships. There's nothing you can do about it now, anyways, so I don't see what the point was for asking how much it weighed.
Delete- An Overachieving Applicant That Knows How The System Works(Google It Sometime)
I remember when I attended Project Uplift they said everything in this order: Grades, Essays, Extra Curriculars, and then SAT Scores/Teacher Recommendations. Although this might not necessarily be true, the essays do count a lot because they show exactly who you are so the admission counselors can see what kind of person they are admitting/denying. I'm not really sure what to tell you because UNC is a university where you honestly never know who is going to get in because they really consider your ENTIRE application, but I don't think you should stress out about it. I'm sure it was well written! Good luck to you all!
Delete-Student Dying To Get Into UNC
Let me give you an example of why SAT/ACT or even class rank/GPA don't disqualify an applicant or give them an auto accept or auto deny. I applied to the University of Michigan OOS (an equatable school to UNC), and got deferred. Their average act range is 29-32 ; my act score is 27. Their class rank has 92% of students in the top 10th of graduating class;I am in the top 14%. I also didn't submit the SAT II. Now you might think that I would be outright denied because of my lower stats. However, my leadership in clubs and in the classroom, my job, my AP scores, my teacher recs, and my essays showed my personality and my dedication, and thus had them consider me against applicants that had SAT II and ACT scores way above mine. Each piece forms to create a whole that should show you. Then the school decides if they like you/ you will fit in well. No one stat is going to hurt you or make you any less desirable, but how your application comes together to show your greatest assets is what can make or break an application.
DeleteAs harshly as Maggie may have put it, she is right. They do weigh grades and academic rigor a little more than other components because they want to make sure that you can handle the academic load at Carolina (even their P.E. classes are legit), but other than that, each application is read individually and given a holistic view. I'm currently a freshman at UNC and last January I saw some people I thought would get in get a rejection notice, and I went to a very competitive high school with a class of more than 400 people, I might add. To the person with the 2300 SAT score, I get the vibe that you're just bragging about how competitive you are and are more interested in hearing affirmation from someone else on the blog that you're going to get accepted based on your stats, than actually wanting to know more about the process. If that's the case then you need to relax and find some constructive distractions to occupy your time until decisions come. To the person who "doesn't want to sound cocky", NEVER count your chickens before they hatch. Good for you if you get accepted, but if I were you I wouldn't be talking about how comfortable you are until after you get you're acceptance letter. After all, the more humble you are, the less you'll fall, should things not go your way. To the person with the 1940 SAT, chill out. A 1940 is STELLAR. I got an 1880 on the SAT and my QPA WASN'T even near a 5.0 (I think it was a 4.45) and I got in early action so my advice to you is basically what I told the 2300 guy; relax and find something constructive to do to occupy your time. To the "Student Dying", I remember doing Project Uplift almost two years ago and you are SO BLESSED to have had the opportunity to go! Its such a magical and welcoming experience! Sometimes I wish I was still in high school so I could go back and do PU all over again! you are absolutely right about not stressing out! I remember being so obsessively nervous before getting my answer, I must admit, but when I found myself sinking into anxiety over it, I would take a deep breath, put on my headphones and find something CONSTRUCTIVE to do! Good luck to all of you and I can't wait to meet you future Tar Heels on campus next school year.
DeleteGood Luck to All of You!
I'm hoping the decisions are released tomorrow! Will you be posting any heads ups or warnings a day or two in advance that decisions are on the way?
ReplyDeleteThey won't tell us when they're up. We will have to see them. Honestly, once people start seeing stuff, it will spread like wildfire. Check your MYUNC account every day.
DeleteI would disagree with you Anonymous, they will put up an update that says we have released decisions, but they will not be putting up a warning or anything of the nature.
DeleteGreeting Julie,
ReplyDeleteFirstly thank you for this wonderful blog update and appreciate the universities genuine interest and passion for building the best class they can. My and my twin sons can't wait till the end of this month to receive their decisions. I do have one question though. Will there be a blog update giving instructions on how to check online for the decisions?
Thanks so much,
Robin
Hi Robin! Yes, we'll be posting instructions on the blog about how to view decisions online. Thanks!
DeleteMy son Jack is currently attending UNC Chapel Hill as a member of the class of 2014. I vividly recall waiting for the early decisions to be released at 12:00am on Jan 31, 2010. The family huddled around the computer and the website crashed. I am very pleased to hear that decisions will sent via US Mail first this year. I think this will make things go more smoothly for all those awaiting early decisions. Good planning by UNC admissions.
ReplyDeleteHello! As a freshman at Carolina with a little sister applying this year, I greatly appreciate this blog! This update calmed some nerves she was having by being able to look into the whole process. I was just trying to figure out why this year might have taken longer than last year. Last year your decisions were posted on the 21st even with the deadline being 2 weeks later. Also you stated that there was roughly a 1000 less applicants for the deadline. So three extra weeks for a 1000 less applicants just didnt quite compute for me. Just was wondering if there was any specific difference from last year or... Anyways, Go Heels!
ReplyDeleteSo I read where admission letters will be sent out first. Is this true?
ReplyDeleteSo I read where admission letters will be sent out first. Is this true?
ReplyDeleteThey are hoping to have the letters come the same day the decisions are posted online.
DeleteAlright thanks. Now if we only knew which day!
DeleteLet's all take a breath and relax. We all want to get into UNC or we wouldn't have applied, but it's not worth it to clog this blog up with unnecessary comments. The Admissions staff is working hard and we need to respect that. Decisions will be posted when they will be posted. You've done all you can do, give the rest up to God.
ReplyDeleteThank you! This is so true! People are getting really annoying with all of this!
DeleteIt's also nice seeing that other people have concerns... it's like a support group
Deleteyeah, you have to realize for a lot of people unc is their top choice and the decision can mean a lot for how the next couple of months play out for them(other applications, interviews, financial aid, scholarships, visits, etcs), so bear that in mind. plus many of these applicants are mainly 17/18 so patience isn't just overflowing from them,
Delete-a voice of reason
UNC is my top choice too. Believe me I would sell my soul to the Devil himself to go to this school. But lashing out on this forum does not do anybody any good.
DeleteI agree VOR... but does patience overflow from anyone? and the last anon, I agree with you also. It doesn't do any good to lash out at others. I haven't seen much of that, but I'm sure it's here. Hopefully we will all hear soon! 2 weeks max left!
DeleteIf Julie and the rest of the staff didn't have to answer all of these they'd be done by now! LOL
Deleteabout how many ea people are being accepted?
ReplyDeleteThat they won't release until they complete the class profile after all students have been admitted and enrolled.
DeleteMichael R. McNeill
United States Department of Defense: CIDR Team
Currently on the MyUNC account page it says "decision not yet available". When the decisions are available will it say "decision available" with a hyperlink or will it say "accepted/denied/deferred". I would like to know when logging in what the page will say because I want to be ready for my decision. I dont want an early surprise when I think I have a whole other page to go to.
ReplyDeleteunless it says accepted...then who cares?
DeleteFrom what I have seen when combing through past years on this blog, there is a link that you click that takes you to an electronic copy of your letter.
DeleteAnd I'm with Kevin on that one, I want time to mentally prepare myself! I want to know exactly what I'm going to see until it's time to see THAT.
Hi Kevin and Maggie, Yes, decisions will appear in the place where it currently says "your decision is not yet available" You'll open an electronic version of your decision letter in a new window. We'll post clear instructions for all of this on the blog in advance of releasing decisions. Thanks.
DeleteSo once we see the instructions on here, we'll know that decision will be made shortly? Looking forward to seeing that update! Thanks Julie!
DeleteFor people wondering whether or not they will send out emails or post on the blog when decisions come out -- there will be SOME sort of heads up. They won't just throw them up on MyUNC without letting you know when they will be up few days in advance, as well as giving you instructions on how exactly you will need to access them and accept/deny their decision. You'll probably have a server crash if ITS hasnt learned from last year so be warned, it may take a while. In the mean time, you don't have to check ConnectCarolina that often (for the sake of us current students still needing access to CC and Blackboard during the semester! haha) because admissions WILL give you some sort of notice. Secondly, reading the comments on these posts, people obviously have their hearts set on Carolina. When I applied, I had no idea what it was like here. I wasn't dying to get in or really that nervous about the decision besides being able to say I got into another school. You guys are right, this is an extraordinary place and those of you accepted have a lot to be thankful for. However, for those of you who don't get in, obviously Carolina will write to you with their condolences, but seriously, life goes on. There are TONS of great schools out there, and while many of us are biased towards believing UNC is the one and only school for us (which it actually may be hehe ;)), you will be great wherever you go. I guess the point I'm trying to make is, accepted or not, you are still YOU. No single person, or university, can change that. Those of you with determination will go on to do great things, tar heel or not! A lot of us first-years here in Chapel Hill are looking forward to decisions too! - we can't wait to see which of our friends get in and were excited to meet the class of 2016 so we can do great things together! take it easy guys! :) GO HEELS!
ReplyDeleteActually, Nick, an earlier admissions rep. post indicated they would NOT announce in advance what day decisions would be posted - because of concerns about a server crash like last year's. Otherwise, I think your advice is very wise. As a parent of one Tarheel, and a second child applying EA this year, I would love for her to be admitted, but I know her other choices can be wonderful also.
DeleteBut she does say "We'll post clear instructions for all of this on the blog in advance of releasing decisions." Therefore, it is unnecessary for prospectives to be constantly checking their portals -- at least until admissions posts the instructions
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DeleteI think that the decisions are going to be posted very quickly after the directions are posted. Don't count on too much padding time between them.
DeleteMichael R. McNeill
United States Department of Defense: CIDR Team
Dear Julie or Erin,
ReplyDeleteCould you please explain the reasoning behind the decision to stop Early (Binding) Decision at UNC? I think for the most part that the young people on this website truly want to be a Tar Heel regardless of grades, SAT, essays, class rank, etc. Some of our friends children did the binding in November about 10 years ago. This process let UNC know that these truly were Tar Heels. Please explain, in detail, why you changed this.
I know some people for whom binding is a great option (my best friend, for instance!), but binding early decision is a difficult decision, especially for the caliber of students who apply to UNC. UNC is a fantastic value, but (personally) I can't afford to commit to a financial aid package before I see it. Also, many UNC applicants are also eligible for scholarships elsewhere. Most of the Ivy League schools are phasing out ED for these reasons. I think a single school early action plan could be a good fit for UNC because it allows students to indicate that UNC is their first choice without committing. Just my opinion.
DeleteI see your point but I am simply speaking for the small number of students that want to be Tar Heels and do not care about the financial decision.
DeleteHi, The second commenter above hit the nail on the head. Many students really need to have cost and aid information before they can commit to a school, and we don't want to disadvantage these students. Also, we want to give students as much time as they need to determine which school is the best fit for them. Thanks for the question.
DeleteHi Julie,
DeleteI respectful disagree with your answer regarding the binding decision and the disadvantage to some students. My thoughts are focused on the students truly wanting to be TAR HEELS; at any cost. I feel that you are putting those students at a disadvantage. UNC has always been my son's (along with many others) only choice. However because of the late decision, we are traveling every weekend trying to determine other options for him when his mind is made up: UNC CHAPEL HILL. UNC just hasn't made up whether they will have him or not. I think this is the case with many students. We are in the middle of exams and traveled last weekend and are planning on traveling this weekend to visit other colleges as well. The cost involved is not cheap during this hard economy. Bottom line is while you may feel that you are putting some students at a disadvantage, you are missing out on the true CAROLINA BLUE TAR HEELS. Believe me, I know!
Anonymous, we all feel your pain, having to wait to hear about admissions. However, I think you miss the point here. If the early decisions were binding, then thousands of students who really want to be Tar Heels would not be able to apply because they could not make a commitment to a school without knowing about financial aid. You mention the cost of visiting and applying to other schools, but what about the cost of committing to a school and then discovering you can't afford it? It is my understanding that UVA did away with binding decisions after they realized that minorities and first generation students weren't applying for that reason. I admire state schools which try to make the school as accessible as possible for students from diverse backgrounds.
DeleteI have to agree with Julie and disagree with the parent. I understand where this parent is coming from because Chapel Hill was the only school I wanted to go too and both my parents went to UNC as well. The fact of the mater is that almost everyone who applies to UNC wants to be a tar heel, I doubt that its a small number. My hunch is that if UNC reinstated ED, they would recieve even more applicants now that UNC has also switched to common app. Thus the decisions would take even longer to release overall and admissions would be as competitive as ever for your son, even if he picked ED. The cold truth is that if your son is truly qualified enough and is a good fit for UNC, ten he will be accepted, regardless. Either way its good to explore other options and truth be told, he should have been touring other schools before this late in the game anyway...
DeleteJulie... suggestion for the future. Why don't you guys do what Furman University does and have an ED, EA, and Regular cycle? Just an idea.
DeleteThanks for all of the hard work you do!
I wish it counted towards our chances of admission how often we check the myUNC page...
ReplyDeleteHa! Best comment I've heard on this entire blog!
Deletelike X 1,000,000
DeleteDoes the Tar Heel Shadow program still exist? Haven't heard anything about it from anyone this year but I have some friends who attended 2 years ago, so I was curious.
ReplyDeleteHi there, We actually don't offer that program anymore. Instead we have expanded the Explore Carolina program, which is open to all admitted students. At Explore, students can choose from a huge list of department open houses, student panels, info sessions, and more. More info will be included with admitted students' letters and on MyUNC. Thanks!
DeleteI see UVA is getting their early action notifications out this Friday. Any chance you'll do the same?
ReplyDeleteWith all due respect, you just asked an utterly unnecessary and.completely irritating question. Julie and all the other reps have said a billion times and even put in bold letters in the same article that u that u just replied to that they CANNOT RELEASE A DAY OR TIME BECAUSE THE SYSTEM WILL CRASH AND THAT WHEN THE TIME COMES THEY WILL LET YOU KNOW. So by asking questions like the one you just asked, you are clogging the blog with unnecessary comments and I'm sure you are also waisting Julie's time and probably getting on her nerves. Be patient and stop bombarding Julie with questions that she has already addressed 1000 times! Good day and good luck.
DeleteOkay, CALM DOWN. What you said may have been based on entirely good intentions, but that was WAY over the top. You do not need to rip someone's head off just because they asked a question you don't like!
DeleteThis is the internet, if you don't like it, don't look at it, and definitely don't respond to it. :) It'll all be okay, you can just ignore the guys that don't pay attention.
I do not understand why everyone on this blog is so mean. Are we all so pea-brained to think that UNC is the only school in the country that will have 'crashing' computers if they release a date? I don't think so! Ivy League Schools, Duke, Notre Dame, UVA, Georgetown, UF, Texas, all of these are great schools but for some reason UNC is the only school with crashing computers. It would also be nice if only students that applied to UNC for the fall of 2012 comment on here. That might keep these computers from crashing. We are the ones interested; if you are already a student...why comment and take up valuable space? Julie is busy getting my Letter of Acceptance prepared and doesn't have time to read your comments...you are already a student.
DeleteI would like to disagree that everyone is so mean, but I feel that there is a lot of stress going on with Students and Parents right now. And the Connect Carolina system is known to crash, it happens, that is the way it is. It works great for Carolina, but when it gets 13000 uniques in an hour, servers can't help but crash. Take it from a person who deals with it on a daily basis. Also, this blog is hosted on Google's Blogger Service, and isn't related to the Connect Carolina system in any way shape or form. Furthermore, this is the internet, and is open to comments from anybody, whether they applied to UNC, are current student, are alumni, or are just the General Public.
DeleteMichael R. McNeill
United States Department of Defense: CIDR Team
"Julie is busy getting my Letter of Acceptance prepared and doesn't have time to read your comments...you are already a student." hahahahahahahahaha
DeleteI heard a rumor that decisions are coming out tomorrow or friday.....this info came from a friend who works in the admissions office........
ReplyDeleteI've heard that too! Hopefully the rumor is right this time. I'd hate to get my hopes ups.
DeleteI've heard that as well... don't get your hopes up too much. Decisions are historically on Fridays and there have been no blog posts with instructions on viewing your decision. That will be the final forecast. Hopefully great news will come this week!
DeleteBest of luck to both of you!
I just have a feeling it'll be tomorrow or Friday but everyone knows how to check right..? UNC.edu/myunc
Delete@Max Don't continuously be checking myUNC. Constantly check the blog, but DO NOT keep logging in and and checking myUNC, its things like that, that bring myUNC to a halt. Watch the blog for instructions on viewing your decision.
DeleteMichael R. McNeill
United States Department of Defense: CIDR Team
So for future reference, I think it's in everyones best interest to:
ReplyDeleteA. Read the blog and comments before you ask a question, sometimes your question has been asked before (great minds think alike)and also answered by Julie. I think it saves them time if we don't continuously re-ask questions and also you might get rude responses which leads me to
B. "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all" Come on people. We learned this in pre-K. I know sometime comments are frustrating but that doesn't mean you can be hateful. It makes others feel bad and also makes you look bad. Most of us are the Class of 2012/2016, we gotta stick together.
That ends my preacher mode guys
Best of luck,
Ebony
Hello All!
ReplyDeleteWell regardless of whether or not the decision will be released tomorrow or Friday, I think we can all be relieved to know that AT MOST it'll be ~2 more weeks. We've waited for this long, I think we are all capable of just a little bit more. We're in the homestretch!
Good luck to everyone!
True that! Hopefully there will be good news for most!
DeleteI am just so stressed. I pray my son gets in. This is all he has ever wanted. As for his two younger brothers, I am going to start pushing them to choose more than one school. For my sake, I am almost crazy. I have been hospitalized with chest pains...turns out it is stress. Let's go Heels! Give us some good news. We have sure worked and worried over it! Thanks for your time. Best of luck to absolutely everyone!
ReplyDeleteOh my gosh, I know what you mean, I've been so stressed over applications especially UNC! I wish the best of luck to your son and your health!
DeleteI am putting my money on Friday at 5 pm! That way the office will be closed for the weekend when the upset folks want to call...and, University of Virginia is announcing on Friday so you know they might want to take the wind out of their sails by announcing as well, this being UVA's first foray back into the Early Action program.
ReplyDeleteAgreed completely.
DeleteWell here is my thought, they mailed out decisions Tuesday, they are going to release on myUNC Friday, because over the past few years they always release on this week (last year the 21st, the year before the 23rd.) It just all fits.
DeleteMichael R. McNeill
United States Department of Defense: CIDR Team
Just curious, how did you find out the decisions were mailed Tuesday?
DeleteI think he is just guessing
DeleteAgreed. Along with the fact that judging by a lot of the recent comments in this blog, everyone is tense and there is a lot of tension and impatience between everyone waiting to get an answer and now it's really starting to show. I honestly don't think the crowd can wait another week before exploding and becoming explicitly rude and impatient with the system and on the blog.
DeletePerfectly put. I'm going crazy, and I can't even focus on anything else at this point.
DeleteNo, I have inside knowledge and do indeed know decisions were mailed Tuesday. In-state students should begin receiving their letters today, as I did today.
DeleteMichael R. McNeill
United States Department of Defense: CIDR Team
My counselor said on monday, she received an email from unc stating that decisions will be posted with the week(so I'm guessing by friday).
ReplyDeleteI have stalked this entire blog since I began my application last summer, and I'm not sure if reading every comment has made me more nervous or what. I have yet to comment because all my questions have literally been answered hundreds of times.. Thank you, Julie :) I just wanted to finally comment to wish everyone good luck. I know exactly how it feels to have your heart set on Carolina. I'm a female, in state student with a solid chance. Although I am well aware just how competitive UNC is, and how the decision could go either way for absolutely anyone. This has definitely been a nerve racking 3 months since the EA deadline, and for my own sake I hope that decisions come out this weekend and I get GREAT news (but if they don't, there are only so many more days until January 31st). For the people who believe that UNC is the only school for them, if you get bad news when decisions are released just remember that transferring is ALWAYS an option. If you truly love Carolina now, you will love it a year from now and it's not about where you start, but where you finish. I hope that everyone who deserves to get in, does and hopefully most of us will be a part of UNC class of 2016! Go Heels!!! :)
ReplyDeleteVery good post! Thanks for the advice and I wish good luck to you too! Class of 2016!!! (So far away!)
DeleteAGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteThank you, Julie! You are amazing for answering all of these questions and being supportive with your responses. UNC is a great school and I hope to receive great news whenever decisions are posted/sent out! Best of luck to all applicants! Hopefully I'll be seeing some of you around campus next year! :)
ReplyDeletewould anyone like to start an outside blog where prospective students can comment and talk until decisions are posted? i feel this is beginning to clog up this blog and obstructing the true purpose. feel free to post a link to it if anyone takes the initiative!
ReplyDeletei agree, that's a great idea!
Deletehttp://unc-admissions-studentdiscussion.blogspot.com/2012/01/welcome.html#comment-form
ReplyDeletethis blog is in no way connected with the university. it is simply for student/parent discussion.
Julie,
ReplyDeleteWere letters mailed out on Tuesday and were high school counselors notified on Monday? According to the above blogs or are these just rumors?
Please god (admissions officers), let today be the day
ReplyDeletei would count on friday being the day (in previous years it is usually a friday around the late afternoon), in any case, don't stress, the decisions will be posted before the month ends, not much longer!
DeleteHi, I know this is not the right place to ask this question but do you know the deadline for the application for residence and tuition status? I just received my I-485 receipt and there still are somethings I need to complete but UNC website doesn't really have any deadline for the fall semester 2012. Do you know anything about that? oh, just so you know, I already emailed to residency@unc.edu a few days ago but have not heard anything from there.
ReplyDeleteI got my letter today (I'm in-state). I got in! :)
ReplyDeleteCongratulations! :)
DeleteSo is that the only notification you got? Regular mail?
DeleteOh dear god, please don't let the above blogger be a troll....
DeleteCongrats, I, unfortunately, didn't get in but I wish you the best of luck at Carolina :)
DeleteHow are you finding out...only snail mail?? anything in the MyUNC portal??
DeleteEbony, are you in-state as well?
DeleteCongratulations, those of you who were accepted! I don't know how many of you will see this, but maybe it help somebody!
ReplyDeleteI am a co-writer for the Carolina Advice tumblr--a place where all your questions about Carolina are answered by two first-year students fresh off the transition you're about to begin. We answer questions about every facet of life at Carolina, so you can find out everything you need to know before making the big decision about which college to attend and begin preparing to move to Carolina if you've already decided. So here is a link, and I hope you'll find something helpful with us!
http://carolinadvice.tumblr.com/
My daughter got a big envelope from UNC today. I haven't opened it (she will want to when she gets home from school). My assumption is that the big envelope is good news. Any confirmation?
ReplyDeletemine was big. if you shift the papers so the beginning of the later comes up in the little window, you can see the first line "I am pleased to offer you admission...."
DeleteYep, that works :) The myUNC website still is unchanged. It was worth the walk out to the mailbox.
DeleteGIANT PACKAGE!!!! IM ACCEPTED!!!!! (SNAIL MAIL!!!!!))) YES!!!!!
ReplyDeletethat's me above, Im in state
DeleteWere you in-state or or out-of-state??
DeleteHey,
ReplyDeleteAre there any First Generation students that have received their acceptance letter and if so can u please post a summary of what your resume looked like? I'm a first gen bit I haven't seen my answer yet and I want to know my chances so I'll know what to expect.
Thanks
We live in Chapel Hill and didn't receive anything in the mail today. :(
ReplyDeleteSo is it only the North Carolinians who have gotten the letters so far? I live in Philadelphia and haven't received anything yet, but I'm assuming I have to wait a few days just because of the distance. If people were getting letters this morning, does anybody with past experience of the UNC admissions process know when the decisions will be up on MyUNC? I'm thinking that I might find out there first before I get the letter. Also, has everyone who got a letter in the mail been accepted, or do they send letters saying people didn't get in as well?
ReplyDeleteThanks
i live in charlotte, nc and nothing came today... cry.
DeleteI live in Charlotte and I didn't receive anything :(
DeleteThe people who received a letter today has nothing to do with acceptance or denial. A lot of my friends posted that they got accepted on Facebook, but a lot of my friends also got deferred or denied.
It's funny though because I live less than a minute away from a friend and he got his mail while I did not, so just be patient (:
Were the people today all accepted
ReplyDeleteNo, only some people got their letters today. No letter does not mean that you didn't get in, it just means that you'll have to wait a little longer to find out.
DeleteIve just talked to all my friends who i thought would get in and they all got one. The ones i thought would not get in did not receive a letter
Deletewhere do you live??
Deletein nc
DeleteAnyone OOS get mail today?
ReplyDeleteWhat is OOS?
Deleteoutside of state
ReplyDeleteDID anyone who got a letter today not get in
DeleteYes !
DeleteNo letter = No admission
ReplyDeleteReally? Or are people still receiving their letters?
DeleteI don't think this is true, somebody above said "No, only some people got their letters today. No letter does not mean that you didn't get in, it just means that you'll have to wait a little longer to find out."
DeleteI live in state, and have a lot of very smart classmates who applied, but no one from my school received a decision today. There's no way that all of us were rejected. Also, someone named Ebony commented earlier saying that she did not get in, so we know that rejections were mailed at the same time as acceptances. Whether or not you have received your decision yet means nothing. Hopefully everyone will find out tomorrow!
DeleteYou get a letter regardless. People who didn't get in probably just don't want to admit it until tomorrow since that is when everybody will have their decisions.
DeleteNot true. There was one girl who just blogged that she got a letter of rejection and last year my acceptance letter came AFTER I found out online and I'm in-state and only 90 minutes away from Chapel Hill. Please don't post info like that unless you truly know what you're talking about because you're making others nervous. Thanks.
DeleteMy son in Northern Va. just received his large envelope.
ReplyDeleteWhen will honors/scholarship invites go out?
ReplyDeleteWe live in New England. Nothing yet....
ReplyDeleteI would think people in the northeast would have to wait at least 1 extra day compared to people in NC and surrounding states
Deleteproud to be a tarheel! got my letter this afternoon and im and in-state student!
ReplyDeleteJulie, any insight into how long it will take for a letter to reach me in Maryland or when the site will go live? Thanks!
ReplyDeleteMy son got his large package today, from N. Virginia! He's in!
ReplyDeleteWhether or not students received their letters today has more to do with the USPS than UNC. From my experience sending out Christmas cards and birthday party invites, I know that even people who live in the same zip code will not always receive their mail the same day.
ReplyDeleteI didn't get a packet today.. and I live in NC. Should I be discouraged?
ReplyDeleteNo. Check online tonight - I think there's a good chance you'll see your decision after 5.
Delete#1 When should one who lives in state expect a package in the mail by?
ReplyDelete#2 When do you think it will be available on MyUNC? Please respond soon! Very anxious.
Got my YES!!! good luck everyone :) it was worth the wait
ReplyDeleteare you OOS or in state?
DeleteDo you think online decisions will be posted tonight??
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know when MyUNC will be updated?
ReplyDeletei am wondering the same thing myself. I am thinking that it will be tomorrow, unfortunately.
DeleteIt'll probably be some weird time tonight so there's not a whole lot of traffic on the site at once like last year. I'm waiting for it too.
Deletei would really hope it's posted tonight. that's so mean to all those who didn't get their decisions but know that tons of others did! i really hope it ain't tomorrow!
ReplyDeleteYeah, not to mention we all just sit here refreshing the MyUnc portal all night thinking it's gonna be there...I hope it's tonight too!
DeleteShould I be worried if I didn't receive a letter today in the mail but students from my school did?
ReplyDeletei really don't think so. i think the admissions office's intention was for students to receive the letters on Friday, and the mail came a little faster for a few kids. there are different mail routes, even within cities. you shouldn't be stressed. i'm just worried about when the decisions will be posted online!
DeleteDid anyone OOS receive a rejection or deferral letter today?
ReplyDeleteGot my acceptance letter today! That big envelope was probably the most beautiful sight I've ever seen. I'm in-state, by the way. I live about five minutes away from UNC's campus. :D So excited!!!
ReplyDeleteDoes no letter mean I didn't get in? People from my school got theirs but I did not get mine. What does that mean?
ReplyDeleteI am pretty sure that rejected/deferred students also get a letter. It probably means it's taking longer for the mail to reach your area or your neighborhood. I'm sure it'll come soon if other people from your school got theirs. I got mine a few hours later than some other people from my school.
DeleteTo the people that got accepted today, would you mind sharing your stats?
ReplyDeletelike
DeleteI got a 1970 for the SAT.
DeleteClass Rank: 90 of 203
DeleteGPA (weighted): 3.85
SAT: 1740
4 AP classes
Spanish Club VP
Just got accepted today in state!! cant wait to be a tar heel :)
ReplyDeleteOne of my classmates has received an email notifying him that he is a finalist for merit scholarships and inviting him to a special event. I received an admission letter today, but having been a semifinalist for the Morehead-Cain, I also was notified that I will not be moving on to the finals round for that scholarship. (To my knowledge, I was the only semifinalist from my school.) Is there still any possibility that I will be considered for other merit scholarships?
ReplyDeleteThanks!
anyone OOS get in today via mail?
ReplyDeleteI'm out of state and accepted!! So happy :)
ReplyDeleteI'm anonymous 2:44 PM. My stats were: 3.56 UW GPA, 4.56 W GPA, 2300 SAT superscore, 31 ACT, 12 AP classes, Caucasian female.
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